Podcast special: Wagner v Putin

Mark Leonard welcomes Marie Dumoulin, Kadri Liik, Pavel Slunkin and Kiril Shamiev to shed light on the weekend’s events and discuss the new reality that has opened up in Russia

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The past two days will surely go down in Russian history. What started on Saturday as an armed rebellion within Russia by Yevgeny Prigozhin’s Wagner mercenaries ended in something of a whimper, with Vladimir Putin’s former caterer-turned-warlord agreeing to leave for Belarus in exchange for some ambiguous concessions from the Kremlin. Was this a coup, a mutiny, a rebellion, or something else? What were Prigozhin’s goals? What does this mean for Putin’s domestic reputation and his political survival? How will it affect Ukraine’s ongoing counteroffensive? And how have Europeans responded?

In this special episode, Mark Leonard welcomes head of ECFR’s Wider Europe programme and senior policy fellow, Marie Dumoulin, senior policy fellow, Kadri Liik, and visiting fellows Pavel Slunkin and Kirill Shamiev to shed light on the weekend’s events and discuss the new reality that has opened up in Russia.

The podcast was recorded on Sunday 25 June 2023.

Cover image:
A screen grab of Russian Yevgeny Prigozhin, owner of the Wagner Group of mercenaries threatening to march his soldiers to Moscow, June 24, 2023 outside Rostov-on-Don, Russia
Image by picture alliance / ZUMAPRESS.com | Pool /Wagner Group

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