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ECFR’s director Mark Leonard speaks with Shi Yinhong, director of the Center for American Studies at Renmin University, Cui Zhiyuan, professor at the Center of the China Studies at Tsinghua University, and François Godement, director of ECFR's Asia & China programme and a senior policy fellow, about the push back on the international order, US-elections, and domestic changes in Europe and China. The podcast was recorded on the 30 September 2016 at the sidelines of the European China Forum that took place in Berlin from 28 to 30 September.
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